Government Smutdown….huh???

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by Kenneth Justice

~Unless you’ve been living in a media-free zone for the past two days (and I’m very jealous of you!) then by now you have heard that the United States Government is shutdown.

I’m not really annoyed by this government shutdown because if you ask me; it seems like business-as-usual in Washington, D.C. The government has become so inept at accomplishing anything positive for the citizens of my country that I’ve long ago given up any hope that our elected politicians actually care about their constituents.

What really bothers me;

—-) Conservative radio & television are making the Democrats out to be evil

—-) Liberal radio and television are making the Republicans out to be evil

Politics in the United States has always been like this; one side says “its the other guy’s fault” and the other side says, “no its not, its your fault!”

No matter what country you live or reside in; politics effects your life. Whether you like it or not, politics is the avenue with which we build roads, bring water to our homes, and operate the day-to-day necessary components of living in a society of people.

But I’m fed up with politicians. I’m fed up with this lie that “its the other political party’s fault!” —-> let’s be honest; that is a damn lie.

Everyone in Washington, D.C. is at fault. Why? Because neither political party is acting like they are public servants. And that is what this article is about; being a servant.

We elect men and women to office and ask them to serve the public……but we need to ask ourselves?

Should public servants receive salaries and benefits that are as much as 10 times the salary and benefits of the people they are serving???

We have lost our perspective on what the true meaning of serving others is and we’ve ignored what it truly means to be a public servant. Gandhi taught that men and women who aspire to be public servants should not accept any income beyond what they need to live on…..he believed public servants should hold to a higher calling and should not live in palatial estates and mansions.

I agree with Gandhi 100%

I have been very critical in my blog of Christian pastors, ministers, priests and leaders who are not living out a sacrificial life; I’ve been critical of Christian leaders who would rather spend their time studying and preaching….rather than getting their hands dirty and spending their entire life working in the trenches with the poor and needy.

But religious ministers are not the only public servants……

What about doctors? I would be ashamed to call myself a doctor and be earning hundreds of thousands of dollars (some surgeons earn millions). If you believe your calling is to serve people through being a doctor or nurse of some sort……than I believe that is a high calling and you should only be in it for the ministry of helping others….not for the money.

This whole healthcare debacle in the United States is a joke.

It’s a joke because we wouldn’t even need healthcare insurance if Medical Doctors and Hospitals were only in the business of helping people; just like the life that Gandhi exemplified; doctors should tell a patient (no matter how costly the surgery) “pay only what you can afford” And if all the patient can afford is $10 for open-heart-surgery….then so be it!

Don’t become a public servant if you’re not willing to serve others!

Do you see how this is neither a liberal or conservative issue? This is about holding public servants to a higher degree of accountability and calling.

The MAIN reason I left the rehab clinic where I was working all of last year as a counselor is because I felt the principles at work among the various coworkers were unethical; they were in it for the paycheck

—-) While I was working pro-bono for the entire year (even though I was offered two paying jobs as a therapist) the other counselors and therapists wouldn’t even dream of working for the clients for free

—-) Two people who I considered to be ‘friends’ tried to pretend that they were in the social work business to help people…..yet if they hadn’t of been receiving a paycheck they would have been out of their quicker than you can say ‘cash in the bank’.

—) Social Workers

—) Counselors

—) Doctors

—) Politicians

—) Ministers

You can disagree with me all you want….but I believe those ‘profession’s should be viewed as public servants; and I don’t believe you should go into those professions if you need to earn X amount of dollars. You should only take what people offer. And if you can’t live a life based on what people are able to give you….then DON”T BECOME A PUBLIC A SERVANT!!!

We have turned being a public servant into being a career….and that is where we messed up in Western Society. Remember the small time doctor back in the 1800’s? The doctor who would receive milk and eggs as payment because that is all his clients could afford?

Yet in our day-and-age…..

—-) Who is driving the most expensive car; the doctors!

—-) Who is living in the most exclusive gated community; the politicians!

And if you are a social worker who makes a very little wage please don’t cry to me that ‘I only make X amount of dollars, I’m not a millionaire”……don’t cry to me because I believe you’re services should be free; you should only say to your clients; pay whatever you can.

Being a public servant SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT MAKING MONEY. And if you don’t like what I have to say…..then you clearly wouldn’t like what Gandhi had to say…and you DEFINITELY wouldn’t like to hear what Jesus had to say!

I better drink another coffee……..

Kenneth



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57 replies

  1. Thanks, from a public servant.

    • Were it only this easy to resolve the age-old question of “What’s it all about, Alfie?” But of course you know that. In a perfect world, public servants and those in the ‘helping careers’ would perform their services free gratis. But it’s just not possible in the world we live. They, too, must survive in order to be able to help/serve others. (And some of them really do.)
      While on the subject of pay for work, I am particularly appalled to see that some corporate CEOs are earning upwards to 400 times what their average employee receives for his labor and that the average income of the average family (whatever that may be?) has actually declined since the 1970’s.
      Corporations run the world, control our politics and laws and implementation thereof, and we the people take what we are handed. I’m afraid I have long since lost faith in the population regarding voting–too easy to fool too many too often. We’re in trouble, we in the middle (class) and downwards. Everything beneficial seems to be flowing UP. What to do, what to do?
      No answers, my friend. So, I’m going to take your advice and go have a cup of coffee, too.
      By the way, thanks for ‘liking’ my blog post. Appreciate it.

  2. I totally dig this. A fantastic read. The politicians are chosen in a democratic way and i believe it was Sir Winston Churchill who said. “that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried” in short “best of the worst that we tried”
    Other than that with the helping, getting hands dirty. I had a thought about Utopia, and simply is this. Creating a world where we help others who in return can help you. Making money obsolete.
    You got to love the movies where people bake a pie as gratitude for the doctors help.

    • “You got to love the movies where people bake a pie as gratitude for the doctors help”

      yup, I was thinking of that old tv show “Little house on the Prairie” and the doctor in the show emulated this kind of thinking 🙂

  3. I agree with you, well said. I think you should lump artists in there too…don’t create art to make money, create it because you are creative and to make yourself happy. Money worms its way in and ruins all the talents of humanity. The only reason I want to be rich is so that I can stop answering to the demands of money on my life. I can stop spending my efforts trying to earn money to pay my necessary bills and I can spend the majority of my time contributing positively to the society in which I live instead of the minority of time I can offer it currently. If we transitioned to a bartering system tomorrow I would be thrilled.

    • I totally get what your saying on art and artists….Ill admit that I haven’t thought out exactly what I would do with every profession and with things like music and art….because with some things it doesn’t bother me if people want to work more hours in order to make more money etc…..capitalism doesn’t totally bother me….it only bothers me when it comes to things that I believe shouldn’t have anything to do with money (such as politics, doctors, etc) 🙂

  4. ‘No matter what country you live or reside in; politics effects your life’ You are SO right, and twas ever thus. A blames B, B blames A and C, C is confused and can’t decide who to blame! I am not an American citizen but the senario is very familiar none the less. What has shocked me however is that +/- 800 000 US citzens will not be paid whilst this debacle unfolds. This will cause reall hardship for many families and individuals – what the heck was the thinking of the politicians?

    PS I am enjoying reading your blog each day – I found it through Freshly Pressed originally.

  5. I agree. It is a dream I also have. And let me add to this: since all people are involved with public affairs, services, we should all work for free. No joking. Teaching is a public service. Journalism too, artists are servants of society and if you look deeper all people can contribute in society.

    But this demands a massive reform of the way we experience life, the way we function in society and the value (s) as they are translated into money.

    I mean that the most valuable thing we have is time and it is a shame to waste time and our talents and abilities in search of the next paycheck. But even though I have been pushing these ideas I used to get the very down to earth responses that I live in utopia. Because this system has been running for many years and people have learnt to put their faith into money.
    And I quite understand people that are unable to see a bigger picture, that we have to pay the bills. In fact I have to pay the bill in order to write and post in your blog. In fact several bills, telephone, electricity, rent, computer etc. The system has worked so long that it is interweaved in our patterns of society and any attempt to change it will surely be very painful. But it is worth it.

    • I totally get where youre going….but obviously that would be a pretty huge undertaking to entirely redesign the economical system……I do believe we can make small steps such as removing the money equation away from certain types of public servants (doctors, politicians)

      Like I said in a different reply, maybe it’s just me but I’m not necessarily anti-capitalist….but more like a capitalist with limits and ceilings…..

      But I can’t argue with u, because your right; there are many other professions that should be viewed as public service as well.

    • Kenneth we are all people with similar goals but different ways to get them. But I believe that we no longer have the time to discuss about how to go about getting them, but to change this whole system before it brings us down. And replying to your next post as well, I always wanted to listen, more than speak, and reading your blog is in a way this. My window to the world, my news.
      I try to avoid words like capitalism (after all even if it is more than a flawed economical system-which I doubt it is) or Marxism, socialism and communism because simply very few people have even have studied or delved deeply into their essence, without prejudice and preoccupations. Economy is not an aspect of life but a helping instrument and certainly not the main force that powers our lives. Competitiveness only with monetary incentives has turn out planet into an arena and this planet can no longer sustain our actions. Competitiveness with incentive to make our world better can and should be a way of life, that will be taught at school. Stock market, patents, share holders etc are not just obstacles, they are enemies of values such as freedom, justice, human life, ecology etc.

  6. when I see what is going on in Washington . . . I just shake my head . . . how can those grown men and women act so childish?

    then my adult daughter came over and started to tell me about her relationship with her husband . . . all I did was shake my head . . . how can a grown man and a grown women act so childish?

    and people wonder how I can enjoy enjoy life in the woods with my 4 dogs . . . I just shake my head and smile . . .

  7. I respectfully disagree about the medical profession. The neonatal expertise and technology that saved my son’s life this summer can’t be acquired with chickens and eggs (although apparently my parents did pay the doctor who delivered me with a veal calf) – should doctors be expected to foot the bill for their training with no expectation of a financial return on their investment? Or should all medical training, research, and development be held to the same standard of pay what you want? I’m not saying healthcare costs are reasonable, but I don’t particularly like to imagine what would have happened to my preemie baby if he had beenborn in a place or time that treated him with the goodness of their heart but no expert or technologically advanced resources.

    • I definitely agree with you as i wouldn’t want the quality of care to decrease.

      Consider for instance the life of Gandhi who was a politician; he was an effective politician and he wasn’t in it for the money

      Why cant doctors be effective if they are in it to serve people and not in it to earn millions of dollars?

      You see, I don’t believe it should cost an aspiring doctor tons of money to go to medical school, and neither do I believe it should cost an aspiring priest a ton of money to go into the ministry…..

      Both vocations should be viewed as public servants and should not be viewed as “careers” designed to earn them tons of money

      –) Perhaps medical schools should be free for those who want to serve others by becoming a doctor

      Just because something is free/voluntary/or redesigned to be more about serving people and not about money…..doesn’t mean that quality has to suffer

      Thanks for your thoughts 🙂

  8. So both parties are to blame because no one’s pure? You’re getting very silly in your frustration. Ironically, in my view, the whole mess is the result of some of the politicians going on principle rather than pragmatic, even cynical, business as usual. You can work with a cynic, but there’s nothing you can do or say to change the mind of a deluded saint. And putting a pox on both houses does absolutely nothing to resolve the issue. As you surely must know from your work, blame can and should be cast where it lies to get anywhere with an issue.

    • I agree that blame should should be cast where it lies….and I believe the blame lies upon men and women who are not acting as public servants (as I referred in my reference to Gandhi) as should be clear;

      –) I’m not a fan of the republican free market capitalism health care idea (what we had for many years)

      –) I’m not a fan of the affordable healthcare act; because insurance companies are still going to take in billions and they are not in the health care field to serve people….insurance companies are in health care to make money…..and like I said, I believe health care should be compared to being a minister; it’s a public service

  9. Well said, thanks. (It has been suggested congress persons get paied the average income of their district.)

  10. I think politicians should be volunteers and not receive pay other than a small per diem while actually serving their constituents… what we have now is career politicians and the choice is made for money… I also believe parties should be abolished so that ideals don’t come before people

  11. I completely get your point, and I think it is noble. I would be happy to oblige by these rules if colleges, grocery stores, mortgage companies, and childcare providers would also take “whatever I could afford.”
    I teach, and so my pay isn’t near that of some of my other public servants, but I do get tired of getting dirty looks if I even mention, much less expect, a paycheck. My children have needs as well. And I do plan on retiring some day. Your system is nice if everyone plays by the same rules. But that is not, and will not, be the case.
    Now the idea that public servants should be making 6 digit incomes is a bit much, I agree. And based on performances lately, I agree that our elected officials are grossly overpaid. They all push my profession towards performance pay – I’ll do it if they do.

    • Yes we are on the same page 🙂 I realize there is a level of idealism in my idea…..but I really believe that the only way things can begin to change is if one particular sector (public servants) begin acting like public servants 🙂

    • I agree that something needs to change, yes.

  12. You know, the whole thing is sad, because it reflects two major issues this country has : 1) People like to play the blame game allllll too often, and when you’re busy trying to show how the other side, other person, etc, is wrong, you don’t have time to actually solve the problem, and 2) The government is so far removed from what the common person’s needs are, they do not care and are not affected by the things that affect us, which means how are they able to do what is best for the people? This shutdown is completely ridiculous, because it’s about each side not wanting to budge. Stubbornness is only a good thing when it’s used to benefit others, not take away….

  13. Not many ps’s who work for a $1 a year(I saw that in TV)but I’m sure a few really exist. I pray we start to see more, we sure could use sincere public servants!

  14. What you have really hit on is that it is not a political problem, it is a men and women problem. People have lost their way with their free thinking, I am in control attitude, it’s all about me attitude. Religion teaches people to be humble, but unfortunately many hate religion today, so they never learn to be humble. On another front, their are those who do practice religion, and they like all of the teachings except the part of being humble. Money truly is the root of all evil, and your writings make that clear. Great post!

  15. Your concept of what Jesus would say and what Ghandi would say is interesting. I would interpret what they have said different from what you said. I would not interpret private individuals as public. I would agree that I find it better for clergy to live off of the generosity of others or as some would say live off of faith. I spent 15 years doing the work of clergy without ever receiving a pay check. I had someone buy me shoes once and donate food a couple of times but that is all. I worked hard because I believe more clergy should do as Paul did and tent make (in other words work on the side for their income). Though as Scripture teaches it is acceptable for those in ministry to accept wages if offered. Most churches, synagogues and other institutions of worship offer their clergy a wage when they ask them to join them. I think this is good such as offering a teacher a wage to teach. In this sense they are only accepting what is being offered. There are exceptions to this of course but as a whole in my years working in the clergy I find most accept what is being offered and most make far less then they would make in the business world. They do this because it is a calling and money has no real bearing on it. I do agree that congress is over paid in fact all politicians I know are over paid. I would like to see their pay be voted on each election cycle. then the general populace would be the ones deciding what they should make. I also think their benefits should also be voted on. I know many politicians are wealthy and in fact a number of those have waived their pay since they did not need it. I would like to see more do that.

    I find your words to be thought provoking which I am sure is your intention thanks.

  16. Great POST! I concur 100%. Our country is comprised of failures and money hungry idiots who not only failed the U.S. citizens but the world. It’s all about the money and exploitation these days. No one really cares about the people, this goes for healthcare, social conditions, and education. Our government would much rather let chronic illness plague this country(more money for pharmeceuticals& cosmetics), keep people as stupid as possible, and allow the rich to get richer as the poor…well remain almost non-existent. This government shutdown in my opinion is only the beginning of the disastrous hole we have been digging for ourselves for the last four decades. It has really made me consider residency in another country….ASAP!

    How long before we are in a state of total anarchy?

  17. Great article man. It’s so nice to see someone look behind all the political smoke and mirrors to the root issue. However I feel like these sorts of professions can only viably offer a free service when the government agree to make it a priority to subsidize these services so that the public servants can actually worry about helping people. The problem is exactly as you say, being a politician is a career and so that becomes their priority rather than legislative equality. Why rock the boat when you have the best seat? I feel like this is something we will never be able get rid of.

  18. The sad thing is, the politicians are the ones who vote for their pay raises. If the people had a choice I would hope it would never have grown so high. When I was in school in the 80s I remember the presidents pay being less than 70k per year. It is interesting how times have changed.

  19. [“neither political party is acting like they are public servants”] While I read and agreed with the rest of your post, this is all that really needs to be said. No one has knocked on my door asking how I feel about jack shit. Ever. Just sayin’…
    Also, I HAVE been in a media-free zone for quite a while. My philosophy is, if it’s important enough, I’ll hear about it from someone. And I have. Over and over. Grapevines are underrated. Which is why blogging can matter.

  20. This reminds me of something a blogger I knew said. Since I can’t find the original post, I’ll try to summarize it as best I can: She was advocating change at the most basic of levels: individuals, homes, neighborhoods, communities. She was speaking in a political context, but, I think it applied to so many aspects of life in a broad way.

    I mentioned already the LDS faith has a lay ministry. A friend of mine (not of my faith) had something interesting to say when I explained our home and visiting teaching programs: “Oh, that is just like they did it in the early Christian church. They visited each other in their homes!” I did not think of it that way, but I had been taught repeatedly that such fellowship was the mortar of the church I belonged to. It was something the leadership depended on; our efforts to look after each other and see to everyone’s needs. Loneliness, want, hunger of spirit– it all seemed to fade when I put myself out there and served. It has not been easy, mind, as I have struggled to learn and relearn this lesson many times.

    I also recall what I was taught to be the law of consecration, and the law of sacrifice. People give what they can, and take what they need. It’s definitely an ideal, and not everyone is ready for it, I think. But it seems to be built from the ground up, on an individual level. Only I can change myself– and so I fight to bring that change for myself, and hope that others will decide likewise.

  21. It’s no different over here in the United Kingdom, unfortunately.

    I have had the privilege to meet local councillors, a few MPs, and even an MEP; I’ve found that the MPs and MEPs are merely career-politicians, in it for the money. A few of the councillors genuinely seem to care though, which is good.

    Politicians will happily complain about each other’s parties and actions, and act like spoiled children when criticised, instead of doing something about it.

    Over here, the politician is a public servant not because s/he serves the public, but because the public serves him/her.

    The only difference is religion: mention it here, and you’re immediately a nutter. Going to church, praying, reading scripture and saying grace before a meal is regarded as fanatical devotion.

  22. I don’t get it. I live in a country where no one gets turned away when they need medical assistance. Health care in Canada is ‘free’. It’s not a perfect system and I know there are people who will run to the States because they can afford to pay for ‘faster service’. We’ve were blessed with outstanding service when my husband had to undergo chemo. The one drug alone cost $20 000. but we didn’t have to pay a cent. If we did I’m not sure he would be alive today or we would be a lot poorer. Our country did not fall apart when universal health care was introduced. The insurance companies continue to make millions of dollars, doctors and nurses are paid well and our economy is doing well when compared to the rest of the world. What is scary is that our economy is linked to the U.S. and if this problem isn’t resolved soon we will start to feel the effects here as will other countries in the world.

  23. We are blessed to live in a neighborhood where there are two doctors, a married couple, one a surgeon and one a pediatrician, who routinely do not charge patients who can not afford their bill. We received such help from them more than once. And a mid-wife here works for trade, carpentry or vegetables or whatever. I agree with your ideal for public servants.
    I disagree that the liberals share part of the blame for this shutdown, though. The service I want them to do for me is to stop the Tea Party from taking over and controlling everything. It would be a great service to the country if they can accomplish that, if they have the nerve to do it. I suppose my comment reveals my biases here, and maybe I am wrong. The only politicians I see as failing to be public servants in this particular instance, are the Tea Party people.

    • I’m not to thrilled that the current solution for the health care situation in our country is to force us to give money to billion dollar corporations (health care ins companies) in my mind it’s the most bizarre idea…..

      I have tons of alternative ideas; a sales tax that allows everyone to get fully paid for health care, An income tax…..Are just a couple simple ones that I can mention briefly

      I totally support gvment taxes…..but I don’t support fining people if they don’t buy from a private company…..it’s just too weird for me

    • Agreed. The Affordable Care Act is a compromise, and in ways that should not have been. I think you and I and many others could have designed a better one, though you are ahead of me on that. But it’s an improvement, perhaps?

    • it is an improvement sort of/kind of…. I mean, its good that they finally are mandating insurance companies to take pre-existing conditions; that is a success. But the ACA is so flawed and as you said, “you and I and many others could have designed a better one” so to me it is a net-loss. We could of come up with a much more simple solution that it leaves me shaking my head in sadness.

  24. thanks for stopping by and liking my post!

    I’ve just read this post and agree wholeheartedly. Great, great words!

  25. Interesting post, but I think you want the something that is logically impossible. There is an old axiom. “You get what you pay for.” We want cheap politicians? Cheap civil servants? Then that is what we will get.

    We don’t have the right to demand charity of another, and we cannot force another to provide charity. When we force another to provide charity, that charity ceases to be voluntary. Thus, it is not charity. So what is the point of demanding involuntary charity? Yet people do.

    When someone chooses to serve a poor person in need and gives freely, that transaction belongs to the giver and the one who receives. If we choose to admire the giver and imitate his example, then we may be better for it. Nonetheless, charity cannot be enforced by government for then what was charity becomes that plain and simple robbery. That is what ancients called democracy, and that is one reason they mistrusted allowing the people to rule.

    • but what we can do is to reeducate the populace on what a “public servant” actually is and should be

    • Actually, that has already been done, and I think wrongly so.

      When we hire someone to perform a task, the people we hire every right to expect us to pay them what their labor is worth in an open market place. Just because we label someone a “public servant” does not give us any right to exploit them. In fact, it is counterproductive to give someone a position with great authority and pay them less than their labor is worth. The job then become more valuable for graft than it is for pay.

      How we each wish to be charitable with our earnings is up to each of us. Does the Bible say otherwise? God commands us to love our neighbors as we love our self. The Bible also condemns those leaders who do not set a good example, but where does the Bible say leaders or civil servants must take a vow a poverty?

      Do some people take vows of poverty? Yes. Do some people work for nonprofits and accept below market salaries for their skills? Yes, but for people who do that that is a personal decision. As Christians we can do our best to spread the Gospel, but only God can give each of us our calling.

    • There is nothing unethical about changing the way we view what it means to be a public servant.

    • Unethical? When we speak of right and wrong, we sometime refer to ethical questions. More often, we are speaking about the correct answer to a problem. In this case, we talking about the best approach to trying to persuade people to be like Jesus. Before we insist another give his life to our cause, we should first consider how Jesus answered the request of James and John (Mark 10:35-45). Even He left the choice to James and John. When we want people to serve out of love, there is other way.

    • When you used the term “exploitation” you instantly changed the context of the conversation to ethics.

      Again, there is nothing wrong with creating a culture in which public servant jobs are viewed DIFFERENTLY than say being a movie star or baseball player……there is nothing wrong with public servants earning only what they need……

      –) My post was based in both the Christian concept that Saint Paul teaches in which leaders 1) are held to higher standards, 2) leaders are not be a burden on the people they serve (that is why he continued to work as a tent maker)

      –) and my post was also based on the principles that Gandhi taught which involved the idea that public servant jobs should be viewed differently than other types of vocations; Gandhi and his family only accepted enough money to live on and nothing more….he believed it became a conflict of interest for those who are in very specific public servant jobs to earn any more than they need…..

      (if you havnt read Gandhi’s autobiography and if you havnt read any commentaries on what Paul taught on the subject I don’t have enough room in this context to give you an In-depth response)

      If we are talking about a professional soccer player, than yes, he/she should earn whatever the market is currently paying.

      I’m not sure why you introduced “exploitation” into the conversation because there is nothing exploitative about people knowing before hand that if they want to become a public servant; it’s a different type of life vocation than if they want to become an oil baron or stock trader…..

      Hope that helps 🙂

    • I presumed the obvious. You don’t want to exploit anyone. What you want are leaders who rise to a higher standard. And yet we elect people like ourselves. Very few of reach the standard attained by either the Apostle Paul or Gandhi.

      We sometimes forget that as citizens we each serve our public servants. We set their tasks before them. When we as citizens give people great responsibility and authority, we must do our best not to tempt them to abuse the prerogatives of their office. Otherwise, many of them will do so, and because we tempted them, their sin will in part become our own.

      Because we need public servants, it is our responsibility to treat our public servants well. Because we all serve God, and He has commanded us to love each other, we each have a responsibility to be a servant to those we can help. But God has set that responsibility before us as a free choice based upon love. We cannot hire someone to make that choice.

  26. I can’t argue with this well written article. 🙂 I do use a label for expediency here, we need more libertarians in office who uphold the constitution. I know this nation will never be perfect, but I feel people deserve their true freedom and alienable human and natural rights. 🙂

    As far a s medical care? Maybe we need to hold ourselves responsible for what we eat and how we treat our bodies in tandem with holding big agriculture and food manufacturers accountable for using the nastiest health harming ingredients whilst they make unprecedented profits.

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