Jesus hates Halloween…Really???

halloween really

by Kenneth Justice

~Jesus hates Halloween….ever hear that before? Growing up in a conservative Evangelical Christian community I heard it more times than I care to remember. Actually, much of my childhood was all about hearing what Jesus ‘hated’….it seems like Jesus apparently hated a lot of things…or at least that is what the preachers of my childhood believed.

However, I had a father that was a bit bullheaded when it came to being told what to do (or what NOT to celebrate) so my early childhood years are filled with memories of carving scary faces in pumpkins with my dad……of course he and I never mentioned at church what we did at home.

But I don’t want to throw under the bus those that don’t celebrate Halloween. I hate it when anyone tries to make others feel guilty for their particular beliefs. I respect the rights of those that are anti-Halloween, and I respect the rights of those who are pro-Halloween.

If you celebrate Halloween then you are worshipping the Satan!“…would you believe that I actually heard preachers say that from the pulpit when I was younger? That is pretty strong isn’t it? I mean, whether or not we believe Satan is a real ‘entity’ it seems to be quite a stretch to suggest that little children who dress up as princesses and pirates are somehow paying homage to the king of the underworld each year on Halloween….isn’t it?

But what about the Pagan roots of Halloween!” My Christian relatives tell me (I have quite a few relatives who are decidedly anti-Halloween). These relatives usually ignore the fact that Christmas, Easter and a ton of other holidays they celebrate also have Pagan roots…..When it comes to the things we enjoy; people often ignore the facts, and when it comes to things we hate; people tend to put together reasons for hating it.

A few years ago a friend of mine (who happened to be anti-Halloween at the time) told me a story that changed her quite a bit. She had taught her children that Halloween is all about worshipping Satan and at the family Thanksgiving dinner that year her children said to their cousins, “You guys are a bunch of Devil worshippers” which of course caused quite an uproar in the midst of carving the turkey.

Kenneth, when my two kids said that to their cousins I was shocked. I mean, I know that I had taught them that Halloween was all about Satan but I never for a minute believed my brother and his children were Devil worshippers” she said to me.

One of the problems we often deal with in the Western World is an attitude in which people adhere so strongly to their beliefs that they are far to quick to sling mud at each other.

We see this in politics where ideologues on both sides of the aisle have so much animosity toward each other that civil and peaceful discussions rarely occur. It bothers me to no end that whichever political party is in control at the moment attempts to ramrod their particular ideology upon all the people.

The fact of the matter is that whether you live in the United States, Great Britain, Australia or fill-in-the-blank….there are always going to be people with varying beliefs and ideologies. So why do we in the Western World believe it is our responsibility to force everyone to ‘believe what we believe”? Why are we so convinced that our ideology is the ‘perfect’ ideology?

The simple fact of the matter is that if you begin the equation with the idea that your particular belief system is ‘entirely perfect’ and without any ‘flaws’ than you have successfully closed the door to any positive communication with others. If you can’t allow for the fact that you might be wrong about something…..then you are nothing more than a closed minded fool.

Because I am a Christian I am admonished in my holy book to ‘let each person be convicted in their own mind’. Essentially; we will each have our own particular convictions about issues;

—) Some people are convicted to be vegetarians

—) Some people are convicted to be vegans

—) Some people are convicted to be anti-alcohol

—) Some people are convicted to be anti-marijuana

—) Some people are convicted to be pro-marijuana

My responsibility is to respect other peoples convictions…..Its not my job to walk around with a list of rules and try to hit people on the head with them. I need to demonstrate grace toward others and try to find a middle ground where we can all live together and obtain a certain level of peace.

There are some standards that we must enforce; such as do not murder. A society that doesn’t stand up against murder will likely disintegrate rather quickly.

But for all the other issues in-between ‘do not murder’ and whether or not we should celebrate Halloween…..I believe we each need to learn how to demonstrate grace toward each other and show a little patience toward those who have differing views.

Is that too much to ask?

A pumpkin-spice latte sounds really good right now,

Kenneth

 



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  1. Enjoy that pumpkin spiced, and thanks for another well-thought-out post!

  2. I agree with you……..to a point.

    As Christians, people should really at least be TRYING to live life according to the patterns laid out in the New Testament. There are some pretty black and white points in there which Christians should be trying to keep (sinning of course means “falling short” of the target). There are certain things that are truths, set down and not open to realistic interpratation.

    Then there are things that ARE more open, such as smoking. I was speaking with Christian friends about films (or moooovies, to you Yanks) and how they wouldn’t watch Harry Potter as it was “too magic” but would watch Lord of the Rings. In this case, it’s up to each person to stand before Jesus and, hand on heart, say that they did right by their own Christian thought process. You can reason from scriptures and be guided, but often it can be argued both ways.

    As for All Hallow’s Eve, I think it has far too much of the occult about it. But that’s just me.

    • cmassonaus,

      I appreciate the tone in which you wrote, because its clear you don’t celebrate Halloween, but you didn’t come out and bash the people who do….I think that is the attitude more people need to incorporate in their life.

  3. wow!…I just got through talking about this with my wife…we live right on the corner in town across from the school…this year, we decided to hand out candy to the little ones…I doubt very much these little munchkins were given a lesson in “devil worship”: prior to leaving their homes…it’s just a “one time a year” thing for these little ones to knock on a door and get some candy and have fun doing it…

    And besides, it’s a great way to see “new people” in the community…

    • Well said Brian,

      part of living in a community is learning to be friends with other people who share different beliefs. it doesn’t mean we have to ‘agree’ 100% with their beliefs but it does mean we have to learn how to get along, respect them, and at times join in on their celebrations perhaps.

  4. I think being told you are going to hell for doing something that you feelo is just normal is pretty fucking scary sometimes also

  5. Kenneth, seriously, stop it! Some of us have a life and need to get some work done, but with your great posts, I spend too much time on your blog.
    Just kidding, thanks for some more food for thought! Hope you enjoyed your latte

  6. I share the conviction, stated by other readers here, that this was another great post. Thanks!

  7. I think common sense goes a long way in this stuff. . . . something lacking more and more in our modern society . . . sucks

  8. It’s funny… I just finished my post about Halloween and the roots could be considered pagan but the thing about it was, Sanhaim (the Celtic holiday) was much more about the future and had a positive spin. It’s been through the centuries and decades SINCE it became more Christian based that it’s taken on a “scary,” or focused on the past and the dead ideology. Go figure. I do think they have a word for it Kenneth when it comes to thinking we’re perfect – perhaps egocentrism is appropriate here (focused on ourselves sort of thing). I also find it funny that we as a society believe it’s okay to put words and emotions into the mouth of a man who was nothing like we describe. Oh how we love to warp things to suit our needs. Tsk tsk. Enjoy the pumpkin spice latte! Happy Halloween friend! 🙂

  9. Reblogged this on God Over Night… and commented:
    A good one…

  10. I can’t believe the railing against Halloween I’ve I’ve been reading. That the matter is the plot of Satan and all that other nonsense – hey it’s all about a little innocent fun – that’s all . The people sound like they were 60 years old when they were born and never had a childhood.

  11. Well hallo – this is interpretation is so weird.
    All Hallow’s Eve is followed by All Saints Day – both of these are very old Christian festival days. Yes, All Hallow’s Eve was grafted on to the ancient Celtic festival of Samhein but even that was not an ‘occult’ or ‘devil worshipping’. It was thought to be the night when the veil which separated the living from the dead was at its thinnest, that is all. People were truly scared of the Devil in those days, and certainly in Scotland (long before it crossed the Atlantic and became commercialised in the USA) there was a belief that young people aka children could protect themselves from being snatched by the Devil by disguising themselves.

    In the small Scottish east coast fishing village in which my mother lives this still happens – children dress up in all sorts of costumes and it is called ‘Guising’ (short for disguising) they go from house to house to ensure they are not recognised and at each house they do a small party piece (a wee dance, a song etc.) in return for sweets,biscuits or cake. There is no mention of ‘tricks’. They do not have pumpkins as these are/were not usually grown in Scotland, they have a hollowed out Swedes (rutabaga) which is a common vegetable with a candle stub inside it to make a Jack-o’lantern.

    There is nothing sinister, nothing devilish, nothing occult about this. How some branches of the Christian Church in the USA can have misinterpreted all this beggars belief. ‘Jesus hates Hallowe’en’ indeed – what rubbish, Jesus had never heard of Hallowe’en which began – as it is today – long after he died.

    Now the festival has morphed into something almost unrecognisable in the States and because of the power of the American media this is the version of Hallowe’en that goes round the world. Devil worship – pah! it is all to do with the money made from selling and manufacturing ‘Hallowe’en’ tat.

    Tonight here in Beijing I saw hyped-up little Chinese kids dressed as pirates and fairies who had over-consumed sweets, carrying plastic interior-lit ‘pumpkins’ and who hadn’t a clue why they were doing it, whilst doting middle-class parents looked on indulgently thinking that this was ‘modern’ and ‘American’.

    I get so mad about those who have not looked properly at the history of folk/religious customs.

    • Wow, great comments. Your example on Beijing is stellar….I’m going to think about that all day

    • I have either read, or have been told, that Irish immigrants to the States changed a few customs that they brought to our shores. Hollowed turnips were replaced for pumpkins on All Hallow’s Eve because… apparently, pumpkins are much more plentiful here (and not just in North America… I’ve learned the Mexican immigrant population LOVES all sorts of pumpkins). Corned beef and cabbage was the Irish-American interpretation of the New England boiled dinner. I believe Christopher Kimball of America’s Test Kitchen explains it pretty well (of course, he explained this before a segment on a good New England corned beef, cabbage, and potatoes recipe). I am not sure how it came to be a St. Patrick’s Day dish, but I do understand mutton got a bad rap during the WWII period.

      Anyways, what you describe in Scotland sounds pretty similar to the original Celtic traditions that I learned about. I won’t apologize for much we change around, but I will apologize for the crass commercialization.

  12. You know, growing up in a Christian home, I too experienced that. We never celebrated Halloween in any form, since it was “evil.” And the only times I know of that I wore a costume was when I was like 1 (my aunts dressed me up) and at 7 (the one Halloween event our church did do). As I grew up, and started questioning the reason for Halloween being considered so bad by Christians, and studying the historical roots of the holiday, I came to the understanding that….many holidays that even Christians celebrate aren’t biblically based, many holidays that people throughout the world celebrate have pagan origins, most people only know the commercialized reasons we celebrate holidays, and I am going to celebrate any darn holiday I feel like. Halloween isn’t in and of itself evil. Children who wear costumes and go around asking for candy aren’t participating in something evil. What matters is where your heart is, and what your intentions are. If you intend something for evil, you can make giving a gift bad even (imagine ppl giving out something poisonous). I believe in God, I consider myself a Christian, even though my views and opinions have changed on a lot of what the church preaches, and I celebrate Halloween, as do my children.

  13. PS – meant to add, is a Pumpkin-spice latte good?or is it just a waste of a good latte? What IS pumpkin-spice, cinnamon and nutmeg?

    • They use a special pumpkin spice syrup but I have no clue what’s in it lol. I dont think I want to know

    • My understanding of what is called “pumpkin” spice is a mixture of cinnamon, nutmeg, and I think maybe cloves. It is the common seasoning for pumpkin pie, although, to be honest, most any winter squash can be prepared the same way and it tastes about the same.

      Yes. It is a weird North American thing… *North* American because I’m pretty sure Canadians eat pumpkin pie, too. They had their day of Thanksgiving already too, the luckies (they have it in October, ours won’t be until the fourth Thursday of this month).

  14. To say that Halloween is bad because it is pagan is ridiculous. A lot of Christian practices and rituals are rooted in and based on pagan customs. So many Christians use their religion to prove others are wrong, but only when it is convenient to do so!

  15. This is an interesting post. Granted, I’m still a new reader here but I’ve found it rare that you state you own personal opinions as openly as you did in this write. You’re normally a bit more reserved, presenting even your own feelings in a more questioning way that invites others to answer the questions for themselves. In this write you were quite clear on your position and you did so without a desire to intentionally make those with differing opinions feel accused of anything nefarious. I hope I can employ the same candor and respect in my comment as you have.

    I’m a Christian, I was raised by a pastor in an extremely strict and overprotected home. When I was a child, I told myself that I’d be so much different with my own children and yet, in many ways, as I grew up I came to understand my parents reasoning behind certain choices they made on our behalf and I have come to admire them for it. Some of those choices weren’t easy and made them look bad to others, even to us, but they stuck to their guns.. not for their own vain glory but from a desire to honor God.

    The Christian walk (as I have learned) is a process, an uphill progression towards Christ, towards heavenly things and away from the carnal/worldly things. During the course of my salvation, things that I once considered ridiculous, unfair or even “harsh” for Christians to do or say now make sense to me because I’m not such a spiritual “child” anymore. I’m “growing up” in my faith and now I can understand and appreciate things that once seemed outrageous.

    Should people celebrate Halloween? Christians, non-Christians, anyone? I personally feel not. I do think it glorifies things such as darkness, deception and death and yes, those are the things that epitomize the essence of who “the devil” is. That is my “conviction” and it means something to me because I know that God is holy. “Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?” As I grow in my faith and understanding of God, my heart is to obey Him. It has nothing to do with judging others, it’s about pleasing Jesus.

    And yet there’s another side of the issue for me. “Obedience is better than sacrifice.” There are thousands of Christians who will “sacrifice” and not celebrate Halloween for reasons that have nothing to do with honoring and obeying the God they claim to serve. These will brow beat others into the same behavior and these are the variety I think are deserving of the critiques you’ve leveled in the above. In fact, I think Jesus would agree with you.

    “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

    It’s not wrong for Christians to admonish their fellow believers towards holiness and away from carnality, Scripture urges us to do as much. The Bible is full of examples in which God tells His people He wants them to have nothing to do with the things of darkness, to be different, set apart, noticeably unconformed to this world.. but we do live in this world and it does take a work of God to teach us how to be set apart from it.

    So I think as it was with me, so it may be with others that what was fine for them to do in their spiritual infancy is not fine anymore as they mature. This change.. this “conviction” is a work of God, not something man can manipulate by telling people what to do just to appear “holy”.

    As always, good write.

    • Wow, lots of great comments today by everyone, yours included…

      I’m not sure if I have enough space and time here to fully respond but I’m going to try;

      Let’s stay with your theme of spiritually “growing up”;

      In American Christianity, actually in Western Christianity for a long time, weve been taught that a relationship with god is connected to external behavior;

      –) don’t cuss
      –) don’t commit sexual sins
      –) don’t steal

      Etc.

      That is then followed by a steady dose of “if you are maturing in your Christian walk than not only should you NOT be doing those things…..but other areas of your life should be looking more “holy” as well”

      Whether we like it or not, western Christianity is VERY focused on external behaviors…..

      BUT when we open up the bible a tad bit deeper we begin to see a different attitude;

      —) polygamy was not part of Gods plan in the O.T. AT ALL…..but god let the people go thousands (THOUSANDS) of years without ever making it a primary focus of attention at all.

      —) Married men who had concubines (which were basically sex slaves) we’re NOT part of gods plan in the O.T. either….but god let the people go thousands of years w/o ever making it a primary focus of attention….in fact, David (who was both a polygamist and had concubines) is said to have been “a man after gods own heart”.

      What we do see is a god who apparently spends thousands of years dealing with certain issues….but ignores other issues….

      And while many Christians want to leap to quoting the Apostle Paul…..let’s not forget that even Paul showed grace because when it came to polygamy for instance, Paul merely said that “leaders” in the church we’re to only have one wife….and he ignored the polygamy of the laity (please note that I’m not defending polygamy, I’m defending our responsibility to demonstrate grace)

      It’s Paul who said that each of us need to work out our own convictions with god….and that we have to demonstrate grace toward each other….

      When I worked as a counselor; I had to be reticent of the fact that it wasn’t my place to tell the client what they needed to work on…….say a client clearly had an anger problem….but they also had a cocaine problem. Perhaps their entire life is going to be spent working on the cocaine problem and they simply don’t have enough years to deal with the anger issue…..it’s not my place to tell them what to work on; it’s only my place be there and to demonstrate love and support.

      When we publicly say “X is wrong” we better damn well be sure that what we are saying is something that we SHOULD be saying……that is the key.

      You see….there is lots of stuff I see around me that I believe is wrong; but SHOULD I say something…..no, not always…..maybe god will deal with the issue a thousand years from now….it’s not my place to tell god what needs to be dealt with in the here and now……

      In fact, more harm can be done than good by publicly declaring we believe “X to be wrong”…….when we do that we are demonstrating faithlessness; if we have faith in god then we realize god is in control and god doesn’t need us to be the walking moral police.

      When Jesus was alive, he lived under the rule of a roman empire in which all manners of sexual behaviors, war, cruelty, slavery, etc were all commonplace. Yet how much time did Jesus spend telling the Romans (and other ethnic groups) that what they were doing was “wrong”? The answer pretty much rhymes with hero…..I.e. zero.

      But now let’s look at who Jesus spent the MOST time rebuking……uh oh, it gets a bit uncomfortable for modern day priests and pastors because every time we turn the page he is rebuking a religious leader. Now consider life in our day and age; if I rebuke a conservative evangelical pastor for not focusing on the poor enough, or for spending too much of his time in the suburbs and not enough time in the ghetto….who gets railed against by his fellow brother and sisters in Christ…..yup it’s me. “how dare u rebuke a pastor who is doing his/her best”…..yet biblically speaking, rebuking pastors and holding them to a higher standard of living is absolutely central to the ministry of both Jesus and Paul.

      I’ve written very long essays on this but that’s the best I can give u in this space 🙂

      I appreciate the candor and patience with which you wrote…and you might take notice, that if u reread my post; i never said whether or not I celebrate Halloween 😉 cuz what I do is pretty irrelevant to the conversation…besides, who cares what Kenneth does….I’m just some dope that drinks too much coffee 😉

    • Oh man. So many good points you bring up. The analytical part of me wants to break it down and answer it step by step but that would be a time vacuum for you and I’ve already sucked up more than my fair share of that with my epistle of a comment earlier, so I’ll say this.

      If a Christian approaches another believer about an issue that they believe in “wrong”, that belief should find its foundation in God’s Word, not in their personal bias or personal opinion. That way, it isn’t them who’s “saying it’s wrong”, it’s God. And if God has said it’s wrong and the person wishes to disobey, fine.. that’s their choice.

      As to your commentary about the thousands of years which God may take to change a thing, your analogy fits hand in glove with my own. Whether it’s an entire nation and a thousand years to bring about the change or whether it’s one person and a lifetime, God does bring us further and make changes in our lives gradually. The interesting thing to note about that argument, however, is that God never changes in that space of time. The only thing that changes is our willingness and desire to love Him enough to obey.

      I’m writing my own blog on this topic that will give me the freedom to share my thoughts a bit more fully on the matter and hey.. it’s Halloween. I might as well tackle the obvious topic.

      Be well. 😉

    • “if a Christian approaches another believer about an issue that they believe is wrong……”

      And their lies the problem Steff, y is the christian approaching the other Christian in the first place? See, if u and I were to have coffee a few times I’m sure we could both come up with a pretty long list of things we believe are”wrong” about the other (actually I’m so full of imperfections your list of my ‘sins’ might be the size of the bible)…….

      It’s not relevant whether or not we can point out in the bible “god says this therefore what u r doing is wrong”…..because you and I don’t know what issues GOD cares about in the life of the other person….it is presumptuous for us to believe we could know.

      And thus, we could end up doing MORE harm by trying to tell each other what is wrong with each other behaviors if it’s not something that God currently cares about in the life of the other..because it can be overwhelming, frustrating or fill-in-the-blank to the person…..this is what is meant when in the N.T. the religious leaders are accused of heaping heavy burdens upon the laity……

      Notice that the prophets in the O.T didn’t confront David over his concubines or his polygamy….even though they could of made that a issue……the thing god cared about in Davids life was the murder he committed and adultery. the other stuff was not relevant to god at the time…nor was it relevant to god for a long time…..

      So it really doesn’t matter if we can “prove” that god believes “X” about “Y”…..what matters is the person and their own relationship with god…..

      Thus; if we don’t believe god has the right to change whatever god wants in someone’s life, and that god has the right to leave other stuff alone…..then we are demonstrating faithlessness

      Your peaceful attitude snagged me into responding…..normally I skip these conversations as they are often very fruitless when people aren’t interested in discussing and only want to preach….I appreciate your tone 🙂

    • “normally I skip these conversations as they are often very fruitless when people aren’t interested in discussing and only want to preach…”

      “It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it.” – Aristotle

      In a good debate, two people usually walk away still disagreeing, but understanding more. I appreciate the dialogue immensely. 🙂

  16. Good perspective. If only we could teach everyone to let others be themselves.

  17. In America when children call to the door they say ‘Trick or Treat’ in Ireland when we call to the door we say ‘Penny for the Pookie’ I love Halloween, if I’m a satan worshiper well then so be it. Almost everything we do these days is judged by others. ‘Live and let live’ it’s a big world, we can all fit in it. Looking forward to the all the little pookies knocking on my door tonight. Lovely article – then again all of your articles are 😀 enjoy the festivities.

  18. I try to ignore religious people, but when they start lobbying to legislate against others rights I get MAD. It’s hard for me to be polite to them.

    • It can definitley be tough in those situations 🙂

    • I want you to know I did not support Proposition 8 or Referendum 74. Or DOMA, for that matter.

      I have been stalked and harassed online repeatedly because a few assumed I just HAD to be “guilty by assocation” because I am LDS (Mormon). And that’s just not the case.

      Then again, some tell me I am self-loathing, duplicitous, and deceitful, because I choose to live my life in a way I think is congruent with my faith even though my wife AND I happen to be of an orientation that isn’t heterosexual– and we are committed to each other. It’s frustrating to be caught in between “us vs. them” conflicts. I’m just me.

      I hope you will understand that not all of us think that way, and yet many of us are actually in very good standing in our church.

  19. Halloween is actually a Christian holiday from the very beginning of it’s origins. Christians are able to celebrate, as are people who may be Pagan, and love the scariest of monsters. The great part of Christianity is we are allowed to make choices, whether sinful or perfect. The reality is we all (100%) fall short of the glory of God. God loves people who share candy, and those who treat others well, and that is no trick. Happy Halloween!

  20. I happen to be a non man made holiday celebrator, or at least transitioning to be, and I can really appreciate the tone of your post. I agree, mud slinging is unnecessary. And it is in no way a Christian characteristic. It’s much better to learn from one another. 🙂

  21. Just shows how short sighted we can be. And unfair to the beliefs of others. And giving names like devilworshipping is just making it worst than it is. And it is done a lot, things are being exaggerated. How can they make an mountain out of molehill.

  22. Kenneth…

    My upbringing was like yours. My very Born Again Preachers for Parents made sure to it that I was ashamed of being naked, that when I fought a fight, that it had better be the proverbial good fight, and lo and behold, ’tis Samhain, 2013, Halloween, and my mother has already told me that it is fine if my kids trick or treat here, but that she won’t be here, because as Christians (I mean “good Christians”…her words) that it is not okay to celebrate Halloween.

    People are so scared to think on their own. It frightens me how much this is the truth, and most of the time, when “good Christians” are scared of anything at all, it is because they have not bothered to find out the truth on their own and are just going along with what they have been told, and in many cases, go on out into the world to tell other people is the very truth.

    I came out of the Broom Closet to them both last year, and while I know that it is a point of contention between us, I refuse to disrespect what they choose to believe, even though it will not ever be the same in reverse. How sad it is to me that many bright individuals fear others because of beliefs.

    And really, the one thing that they fear the most is finding out that what they believe is not the whole truth…

    ROX

  23. It blows my mind how often it seems “Love thy neighbour” is overlooked by Christians. It is saddening how teachings of love can be twisted into excuses to control.

  24. I appreciate your distinction, Kenneth. I knew kids in school that were Jehovah’s Witnesses. A few of them, in my fourth grade class, were encouraged to give a presentation about their beliefs, and we were allowed to ask questions. Later, I knew a guy that would simply stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, but did not recite it, and he explained to me why.

    Absolutely none of them were pushy. I lost track of the first three, but the last guy, I did catch up with recently and we had a nice conversation. I had learned by this time Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t celebrate any holidays, not even birthdays, but I have yet to run into any that were pushy about it.

    I am aware of some evangelicals who rail against Halloween. I don’t claim to understand why, except maybe the way some adults celebrate it with much alcohol and skimpy costumes for the women (where even Ghostbusters and Pikachu Pokémon are sexy). And then maybe teenage pranks. But then, I do know that there are evangelicals that would believe I am going to hell because I am LDS and our doctrines concerning Christ do not match theirs.

    • jaklumen,

      I think that if Halloween was a little bit more designed for children it wouldn’t bother as many people. So much of Halloween has been taken over by adults who want to put up the grossest and sickest displays possible; did you see the one in Colorado that has been all over the news, very sick. If Halloween were simply about little children dressing up and getting candy….i’m sure it would be less divisive.

    • My understanding is that it’s briefly evolved to be more for children; I was watching a history show that noted pre-WWII decorations were much scarier and apparently aimed at a more adult audience. Overall, the commercial aspects (mass retail) seem to say children most of the time I look.

      But I definitely agree on your sentiments concerning displays, and more especially haunted houses. My sister lives in Alpine, UT and she says for some reason that residents are obsessed with blood-filled, gory displays. (Crime shows are also big in Utah– as well as porn– go figure.) She also said modern horror films (which many displays are based on) are more torture porn than fear and terror. I figured the Saw series of films was a sterling example and she agreed. My wife learned the hard way how bad the first Saw movie was (she was curious), and she said she regretted watching. She’s a Stephen King fan, so it’s not like she finds the horror genre objectionable.

  25. Reblogged this on New Life and commented:
    I know we’re a day after Halloween, but I thought I’d share one more post with thoughts on the discussion, for your consideration… I like a lot of what he had to say, minus the pumpkin spiced latte of course. Just give me my coffee straight up StarbucksTM coffee beans, or a double double Tim Horton’s coffee!

  26. Hello, first of all thank you for your thoughts. Not sure how I came to read your blog, but I’m glad I did. I hear what you are saying and I agree with most of it. But what I would like to make clear is: while Christians need to exercise spiritual discernment is one thing. But when it comes to church leaders they must have an opinion. People will ask them and they have to be ready to give an answer. Is or can Halloween be demonic? is it all right for Christians to join in with the celebration? No, personally I don’t think any pastor can say that if you participate, you worship Satan. But they have a right to say that it is opposite to what the Bible teaches. They must do that. I’ve read other blogs on the matter, I listened to my friends on fb,I want to be open minded and not legalistic, but every year I seem to hate Halloween as a holiday in general more. I did let my daughter to join in in trick or treat this year for the first time! Her best friend, who comes to the youth group, was having a b-day party, they really wanted to go out. I’m not going to make my daughter stand out for the sake of my convictions. It was not easy, I kept praying for the the whole evening, I didn’t like it at all but I don’t believe she turned to Satan worship over that. Even the whole idea behind it is simply disgustingly disturbing, no two ways about it. Some people do really evil things on Halloween – sacrifice babies, make spells against marriages and ect. If we don’t do it ourselves, it doesn’t mean this doesn’t happen at all. I watched a film recently ‘Sarah’s Key’ with my daughter. They showed how thousands of Jews were yanked out from Paris in 1992 and no one knew what to do or did anything about it. They just let the French do this to their own countrymen. The evil happened and the others let it happen. If we chose to participate in Halloween activities, I believe it should be not for a bit of fun, but for the light shine in the darkness. This is a really good clip I believe. http://vimeo.com/75045602 Does Jesus hates the idea/origin of Halloween. I believe He does. Thanks for reading.

    • Angel,

      The example of Jesus is someone who was asked lots of questions….but he didn’t always give answers, or at least the direct answers that were being asked of him…

      Sometimes the best thing to do is NOT answer the question. Instead, ask yourself, “What area in this person’s life is God working in?”

      Sometimes, giving an answer on a particular issue can do more harm than good.

      Thanks for your thoughts.

  27. Morning. I agree with you about showing grace and patience towards one another in our faith. We as believers live by our convictions to the best of our ability. we should always build one another up, not tear each other down. Yahweh bless

  28. i heard that when jesus was in elementary school, he told his teacher, “when i grow up, i want to be God!”
    thanks for liking my blog entry.

  29. “Actually, much of my childhood was all about hearing what Jesus ‘hated’….it seems like Jesus apparently hated a lot of things…or at least that is what the preachers of my childhood believed.”

    I can relate!

    Very interesting read!

  30. In Christ we are free… wherever we are in our walk of faith, the thing to guard is our freedom in Christ. Enemy No.1 for the born-again believer is “Thou shalt not!”

  31. I celebrated Halloween as a child…but, as you know, it was a different world in the 1950’s-60’s! We didn’t really associate harmless characters with Satan, even though we were Christians. It was in the 1970’s when I heard a tape by a Wizard who had left his group who said on Halloween, all the members of the witchcraft group would laugh over Christians being drawn into their High Holiday. My husband & I immediately stopped Halloween observance. That was then. I do not partake in Halloween, but I might do a All Hallowed Eve in a church and I do observe Reformation Day ( not that every thing done during the Reformation was God’s will, I know that, too). I do feel in today’s society of occult and bias against Christians, it is better to leave Halloween alone in general…just my take right now. Since I am always learning and evolving as an adult, I am less hard-headed than I used to be about my opinions, but I still have them!!!!

  32. “My responsibility is to respect other peoples convictions…..Its not my job to walk around with a list of rules and try to hit people on the head with them. I need to demonstrate grace toward others and try to find a middle ground where we can all live together and obtain a certain level of peace.”

    Thank you. I didn’t ever know there was an anti-Halloween sentiment in some Evangelical churches until I was older. I didn’t grow up in the church and I’ve always struggled to understand why this issue even matters to people.

  33. Wow! Reading this in early November (not online every day) and even though the subject line is about Halloween, the real subject is about Christian attitude. I agree that we are to grow and follow our own convictions and allow others to do the same. The celebrating of Halloween has changed quite a bit since I was a child. I believe it’s just a reflection of the changes in our society. Evil exists in our hearts, not in a holiday. What and how we celebrate simply reflects what lies there. Like your reflection! 🙂

  34. I spent years accepting these things I heard from a pulpit, and then one day my heart convinced me to break free. Like you I have no problem with anyone and their convictions. But it isn’t right to condemn others when their opinions don’t line up with yours. Excellent post…looking forward to following you! Thanks for visiting my blog!

  35. Thanks for visiting our blog. That gave me the chance to visit yours and I loved it right down to the titles, humor and sentiments. You echo so many of my own thoughts as I, too, grew up in a fundamentalist family. (Jesus doesn’t like movies or dancing? REALLY?) I look forward to reading more or your posts. Anita

  36. I’m a Druid. Been one for quite some time now. I find it fascinating that Christians cherry-pick their holy books and cherry pick their celebrations. All the celebrations in Christendom came from Pagan celebrations they took over. It’s okay, if it was good enough for Tammuz it’s good enough for Christmas. The only issue I have is people saying, “Hey, you have to say Merry Christmas to me.” – Why? It was mine first. My Germanic ancestors created a holiday at midwinter that honored the return of the sun god. My mother used to wear a crown of candles (lit!) as her father lighted the tree. Yanno, times change, people change. The Christmas card industry caught onto the fact Victoria important Prince Albert’s quaint Christmas (Yule) tree. WWJT? He’d wonder who all’ya’all are and what all ‘y’all and saying and doing in his name that are like 180° off true. 🙂

  37. People have not been afraid to speak up against church positions since the Inquisition….why should we be afraid now?

  38. Thanks for stopping by my blog. Keep up your good work.!

  39. It’s sad how, irrespective of what society you belong to, or what gender, people always have a high level of intolerance towards those who do not have the same views as them. If only everyone could actually practice the principle of “To each one his own”.
    Good post and thanks for stopping by!

  40. Thank you so much for stopping by my blog and Mountainmama and liking my post on letter writing. I thought I would stop in your blog and look around and all I can say after reading this post is…. crap some one took my husbands life and posted about it…. your insights and questions are very much the same as his and I cant wait to read more. Thank you again Jolynn

  41. I would share my views on Halloween, but this blogger summed it up far better than I ever could: http://troublefacemom.com/2012/10/31/on-halloween/

  42. Great post. I needed to read this. Thanks.

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